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UK Gathering - 22-23 November 2008

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Topic: UK Gathering - 22-23 November 2008
Posted By: CarlRadford
Subject: UK Gathering - 22-23 November 2008
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 02:06

UK Gathering

 

Too impatient to wait for the European Gathering in Paris a call sounds out to all that might wish to gather in Bonnie Scotland over the weekend of 22-23 November 2008. I offer our house as the centre of activities, a nice little darkroom, some nibbles, a wee dram and scope for showing work and image making! Rumour has it that we have a fine Indian restaurant close by should people find the need.

 

What is more a mystery guest will be here too! He has agreed to show some work and provide a masterclass and take the hot seat for a question and answer session.

 

This is a free event to promote the wet-plate collodion process, to renew old acquaintances and make new ones.




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Posted By: heyoka
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 03:01
oooh. count me in, please!


Posted By: Cynan
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 04:58

Count me in too, please! Smile



Posted By: JohnBrewer
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 08:05
I'm in!

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Posted By: CarlRadford
Date Posted: 28 August 2008 at 01:33
Well that is 5 of us so far - I'm sure the girls from The Dark Country will make their way north when they hear the call :)


Posted By: jogane
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 06:13
yes we will! been a bit rubbish with collodion lately - working 6/7 day weeks cus people are sick at the gallery, but am going out next tuesday to another castle and will get them scanned and on here soon! I have a new toy too - he's a Houghton/Sanderson 10x12 from 1880 with a Ross 10x8 lens - have been looking at him, but hes not been used yet....He is called George and is beautiful!


Posted By: David Gillanders
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 06:32
Hi Carl, I'd love to find out more about wet plate - if it's possible to come along I'd love to.

David Gillanders


Posted By: CarlRadford
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 06:43
Small world David - I will be showing some wetplate images on Thursday evening if you are at Street Level! You're more than welcome to come in November too!


Posted By: christina
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 12:58
I'd also love to come, if possible?


Posted By: CarlRadford
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 13:59
You'd be more than welcome Christina!


Posted By: CarlRadford
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 14:00
8 of us including the mystery guest then :)


Posted By: David Gillanders
Date Posted: 29 August 2008 at 14:10
That's magic - thanks. I'm overseas next week so will sadly miss the street level night. I'll get in touch over the weekend before I go if that's OK,

Ye HA!!

David


Posted By: CarlRadford
Date Posted: 04 November 2008 at 15:05
Our guest - I think the topic might give this one away - will be demonstrating the art of negatives, printing and toning! Not to be missed :)


Posted By: CarlRadford
Date Posted: 06 November 2008 at 14:42
If anyone needs help with a place to stay or requires collection from train stations etc please let me know?

Cheers, Carl


Posted By: CarlRadford
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 07:20
Well a great weekend came to an end! 8 of us including Quinn talked, made plates - mostly negs, printed on some POP. What better way to spend a weekend - evryone enjoyed themselves and we are already planning the next UK Gathering which will be held down south in early summer 2009. A big thank you to Quinn for taking the time to come over and support and encourage the UK Black Paw contingent -gloves were provided for those that wanted them - hopefully we shall be represented at the European Gathering in June 2009.
 
Again many thanks to Quinn!


Posted By: JohnBrewer
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 08:28
It was a fantastic time, meeting old friends and some new. Many thanks to Quinn for sharing his knowledge and Carl, Liz and Lewis for their warm hospitality and great food.

John.


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Posted By: heyoka
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 15:13
thanks for a great weekend--fabulous conversation, company, and learning.


Posted By: JohnBrewer
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 17:30
Here's a link to my image made with Quinn's help http://www.studioq.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2421&PID=15174#15174 - http://www.studioq.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2421&PID=15174#15174

J


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Posted By: rodneyAB
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 21:00
sounds like a gathering indeed.
 


Posted By: jogane
Date Posted: 26 November 2008 at 07:53
it was a good weekend - thanks for all your help Quinn, and Carl and Liz for the great food and hospitality! Looking forward to the next one...


Posted By: rado
Date Posted: 26 November 2008 at 12:16
did you experiment with the tomato tent ? :)

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rado

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Posted By: quinn
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 09:30

I couldn’t agree more. This was a terrific event. It was very kind of you to invite me Carl, I truly appreciate it.

 

Carl and his wife, Liz (and their dog Lewis), were gracious hosts. They provided the wonderful meals, tea and coffee, and their beautiful home for the gathering. Thank you both! (and Lewis too).

 

I met (finally) John Brewer. He’s another terrific bloke. He’s talented and motivated, and kind and conversant. John and I have had a few conversations over a long period of time and it really was great to final meet. John also did a wonderful (Albumen) negative of Katie there. I was happy to be there for that as well.

 

Some more of the group I met that are here on the board, Jo, Katie, Chevonne (sp?), Craig and Claire (Coffer’s assistant last year and the year before). All super talented and wonderful people, it was truly my pleasure meeting all of you. I really enjoyed seeing everyone’s work (in hand). Physical presence makes all the difference in the world.

 

My goal, or purpose, for attending was to meet some of the UK group and to share some things I have been working on as far as negatives are concerned (technical and conceptual). I brought along a little 26 page document (and excerpt from my negatives publication), I call it a primer, to share about chemistry for negatives and making/intensifying/printing negatives.

 

On Monday we met John and Jo in the center of Glasgow at, “The Social” for an espresso. We visited the GOMA and a gallery called, “Street Level Photography”. They had some nice work from recent photo grads there. We ended up going to a camera shop (found their card in the gallery) near the gallery. We asked if they had any old lenses. They told us that they in fact did have some. They asked us if we would come back in an hour, to give them a chance to dig some lenses out from their basement. We came back an hour later and both John and Jo scored some very nice glass for making plates. Jo scored a nice Petzval and landscape lens and John scored a very fast Dallmeyer. That’s too sweet, isn’t it?

 

I hope to see everyone again soon. I’m looking forward to Paris now. Jo tells me there may be something (to be announced) happening in England next year too. These events are very fun but I think we tend to overlook how important they are for our community as well. They are incredibly enriching because, at the end of the day, it’s more about connecting with human beings than about the art or process. The beautiful thing is that the art and process is the catalyst for those human connections and friendships and we owe both a lot.

 

On a side note; we spent Tuesday in Edinburgh. There are great photo galleries and one photo bookstore that Carl turned us onto called, “Beyond Words”. If you’re ever in Edinburgh, pass on the castle and go the bookstore ;-)

 

We flew out of Glasgow (Prestwick airport) back to Frankfurt. It’s a 1:40 flight. They said something over the loudspeaker about fog. I didn’t hear what they said, nor did Jeanne or Summer. Our plane lands, all is well, or so it seems. We get off, go through passport control and start heading for our car. We parked last week in the P2 area. We see P14 and P15. We think, wait a minute… we’re in a different airport! We ended up in Baden Baden, the Baden Flughafen, which is three hours from our car. The message they announced, said that they weren’t going to Frankfurt, but to Baden Baden. So they load us on a bus and three hours later we’re at the airport where our car is (Frankfurt Hahn). We get our car and 1.5 hours later, we’re home.  

 

One more thing, our internet connection at home is down… may be a day or two before we’re fully back…


Carl's negative printed on POP.
 
Jo in her "tomato tent" - and yes, Rado, these are fine for wet plate..
 
John's negative of Katie printed by Carl...
 
Jo snagging some lenses in the camera shop..
 
John and Katie...
 
 


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Regards,
Quinn Jacobson


Posted By: jogane
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 09:32
Hi Rado,
 
The tomato, (or perhaps cannabis?) tent is good for collodion! Which means we can get portable darkrooms for around £60 on ebay and I can start using my 10"x12" on location! If you search for 'grow tent' there are several sellers, mine is a 'budbox'...
 
Quinn has some rather fetching pictures of me modelling the grow tent he might post on here....


Posted By: jogane
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 09:33

how bizarre, we just posted at the same time! you read my mind!!



Posted By: rado
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 12:20

sounds like you had a lot of fun :)

thanks for the info on the tomato tent, i'll get one.



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rado

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Posted By: zmanphoto
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 16:28
Thanks for posting. So with a table inside, how well do you think those tents will hold up in heavy wind? Is it fast to set up?

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Posted By: smieglitz
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 23:52
Jo,

Have you used the grow tent on location in strong sunlight or open shade?

Joe


Posted By: jogane
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 12:40
Hello,

I havn't actually used the tent on location yet - I bought it just before the workshop for Quinn to take a look at so its all a bit new to me too. You need to add a zipper pull to close it from the inside and there are some air vent holes that you have to make sure are pulled tight shut with cord to close - to shut out all the light, but this is quite easy to do.

It is quite heavy, but folds into a bag that you could carry on your back over a couple of fields. I'm going to add some guide ropes to make it more sturdy in the wind - at present I would worry it might blow away. It folds up and down in about 10 mins - you need a rubber mallet to knock the ends of the support poles in tight though, or else the canvas frame won't stretch over the support poles. it is around a meter square by 1.8m high (i'm short so this is ok!) I use a small folding table - which was advertised as a TV table! it is about 50cm square, so leaves room for me in there...

But the important thing is - it is affordable and quite usable! I'm not yet using my 10"x12" on location until I am well into a project - to save chemicals, but will start using the tent on location with this camera next year - for now I'm only making 4"x3" plates so I am just using a small box..


Posted By: lucy
Date Posted: 03 January 2009 at 10:52
Ahhh, damn! That sounded like a great weekend, Im so annoyed that I missed it. Can anybody tell me if there are any similar meetings scheduled to happen in 2009 please? I have been wanting to learn about collodion processes for a while now but havnt been able to afford a flight to America to one of the many workshops that seem to be happening there.
Many thanks
Lucy


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Lucy


Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 03 January 2009 at 11:13
Hi Lucy,

I just sent you an email about a couple I have coming up.

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Posted By: jogane
Date Posted: 04 January 2009 at 09:25
Hello Lucy, We will probably be having a gathering at my parents place in Coventry around May time. I will be posting more details once this is all confirmed with dates etc. Your welcome to come and join us.
Jo


Posted By: lucy
Date Posted: 04 January 2009 at 13:57
Thankyou, that sounds great. Ill keep my eye on the message board
best wishes
Lucy


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Lucy


Posted By: zmanphoto
Date Posted: 08 February 2009 at 03:11
Just curious on any updates of using the tomato "budd" tents? I'm considering getting one and was curious if any of the other forum members have used them in the field.
Rado, did you ever get one?
Here is one that I am looking at, which I believe is similar to what Jo is using in the photo
http://tinyurl.com/cyqmtq - http://tinyurl.com/cyqmtq

Great, so now do my neighbors not only smell ether coming from the garage, but I have a grow tent I'm putting together in my front yard :-)


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Mark Z
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Posted By: zmanphoto
Date Posted: 08 February 2009 at 17:46
FYI,

here is a reply I got back from the seller of these tents:


So far no one has explicitly told us that they have purchased this tent for photography use.  We are not sure if it is suitable for photography use since:
- Although relative light-tight, there may still be a hint of light coming in when it is bright outside due to the zippers being white in color (although there are flap covers behind them), 3 mesh windows (although each has a flap cover behind it), 3 duct vent holes (although each has a sleeve with built-in tie strings).
- It weighs about 35 lbs, so not exactly very portable, but at the same time may not be able to withstand strong wind outside.

Regards,
GYOSupplies


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Posted By: CarlRadford
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 03:31
Mark - read what David has to sat here:  http://www.collodion.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2704%20 - http://www.collodion.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2704

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Posted By: David Gillanders
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 03:36
HI all,

I've just used a bud box in the field - I think it's more or less the same as the one in question and it was great.

Here's a link to it: -

http://www.growell.co.uk/p/7001/BudBox-Grow-Tents.html - http://www.growell.co.uk/p/7001/BudBox-Grow-Tents.html

It's not 100% light proof but can be made so very, very easily. The main problems are at the seams/zips and it's not a huge amount of light I'm talking about. I made a curtain to hang on the inside at the "door" and tied off and taped all the duct holes and seams. It took 20mins and worked a treat. 

I think for what I want to do it's going to be problematic unless you have a location with space to set up - and I think the winds in Scotland would waste no time in adding the wizard of Oz effect if used outdoors!

I'm going to look into converting a transit van into bunk bed and darkroom accommodation for my road trips.

I'll keep you posted,

Cheers


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