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Topic: Wet Plate Workshop Online
Posted By: admin
Subject: Wet Plate Workshop Online
Date Posted: 19 November 2008 at 06:57

I’ve been thinking about doing a  http://www.studioQ.info - Chemical Pictures: Wet Plate Collodion Workshop Online . Before you think, “that’s crazy”, let me fill you in on some details.

First, the most important thing is that this would be interactive. In other words, participants would be able to ask questions and make comments. I think I can have up to 24 people on a Skype feed.

Secondly, the participants would be able to SEE everything from making chemistry, pouring plates, making exposures, development, varnish, etc. and see all of the equipment and details. I’m even thinking about doing a feed from my dark room or dark box to show development techniques and how to judge properly exposed images.

This would be designed for people who can’t get to a workshop but have access to Skype and a high speed internet connection. I would offer my workshop guide (PDF) and participants could follow along as I show my techniques on making chemistry, flowing a plate, making an exposure, developing a plate,  and varnishing a plate.

So, if you have any interest in something like this, or know someone who does that can’t get to a workshop but wants to see the process and learn how to make the chemistry, please let me know.

I haven’t figured a cost for it yet, but it will be very affordable to “attend”. First things first, in that order, I need to see if there is any interest and secondly, find a good date/time to do something like this. Remember, I’m on Central European Time (CET) and need sun to make images, so it would have to be a Saturday or Sunday beginning at 0800 or 0900 and would probably last several hours.

Just throwing this out there, your thought are appreciated.




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Posted By: Eddie
Date Posted: 19 November 2008 at 07:56
i am interested.


Posted By: zmanphoto
Date Posted: 19 November 2008 at 12:22
Quinn,

I think this is a great idea. If you need a beta tester for Skype, let me know. I've used it for guest speakers this summer and it worked great. I've never connected with more than one person though.


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Mark Z
http://www.markwzimmerman.com - http://www.markwzimmerman.com


Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 19 November 2008 at 13:11
Hi Eddie and Mark,

Thanks for the feedback.

Mark, I may take you up on that. I want to test a Canon XL2s camera and see what kind of quality and mobility I would have. Maybe I could talk one or two more people into jumping on Skype and giving me a "beta test"???


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Posted By: schrochem
Date Posted: 20 November 2008 at 12:31
Quinn, I just wanted to let you know I'm interested.
I'm self taught but would like to spend time with more experienced wet platers to really hone in on the finer points.
Traveling can be difficult and expensive so this is a very appealing alternative.
Please keep us informed.


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Scott


Posted By: fotochik
Date Posted: 20 November 2008 at 13:38
YES! YES! YES!


Posted By: whitemoor
Date Posted: 20 November 2008 at 16:37
I love the idea of a web-cast, Quinn!

I'm looking forward to you releasing a DVD set also. Do you have a revised release date for this?

Oh, and another thing... any plans on a re-release of this book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Contemporary-Wet-Plate-Collodion-Experience/dp/1427602735/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227216692&sr=8-2 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Contemporary-Wet-Plate-Collodion-Experience/dp/1427602735/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227216692&sr=8-2

Best -
 Max


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I never said I'm a plate cleaner?!


Posted By: magruder
Date Posted: 20 November 2008 at 17:52
Quinn... would most definitely "attend"
Hope it can come to fruition. 




Posted By: Eddie
Date Posted: 20 November 2008 at 20:42
i use skype as my only phone service.  it works great.  i have talked with about 3 people at one time before. 

keep us all posted.  feel free to add me to any beta call you may have.  i am in NY.  my skype handle is "thandarmoe"

all calls from wet platers will be happily taken!  :)


Posted By: gustavo
Date Posted: 21 November 2008 at 00:38
Sounds Interesting !!
is skype a good choise? I don't kno much about their bandwith .
you may want to see if other forums may be aveil to help out!!


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Posted By: fotochik
Date Posted: 21 November 2008 at 07:49
A friend who works at Harvrad Business School uses Skype for overseas multi-user video chats ... seems to work quite well for them


Posted By: timeUnit
Date Posted: 21 November 2008 at 08:46
I think it's a great idea! I am interested, but it all comes down to time, of course. 

Maybe you could also sell the webcasts later on your web site, for those who missed it. 


Posted By: ChrisU
Date Posted: 21 November 2008 at 12:09
Great idea. A "hands-on" workshop for a world-wide community. I'm interested.

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And when I grow up, I want to become a photographer, and save the world from bad exposures


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 03:23
I believe I would be interested also


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 17:19
Sounds like a fantastic idea!


Posted By: gustavo
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 17:26
Quinn how may people do you need to make it happen?

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We are not moved by things , but by the views we take of them.
Epictitus.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/gustavo_castilla/


Posted By: hiottb
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 03:56
Definitely interested, Quinn.  I think using Skype is a great idea!  A feed from the darkbox would be a coup.  If you're creating an email distribution for this...hit me at hiottb@mac.com.

.....To do:  check Skype balance prior to the webcast!  

Best,

Bryan


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Vaccinated Time Travel: To fantisize about travelling backward in time, but only with proper vaccinations.

Douglas Coupland, Generation-X


Posted By: zmanphoto
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 08:55
You shouldn't need credit for Skype unless you are using it to call phones.  I used it this summer for a class I taught called Night Photography.  I was able to get 2 guest speakers - one from California and the other from Canada- to talk about their work for an hour each. It worked great.

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Mark Z
http://www.markwzimmerman.com - http://www.markwzimmerman.com


Posted By: PastInk
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 11:06
Hi Quinn.
 
I am interested in this webcast as well.
 
Mark MacKenzie


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Art Conservator, Electronicist and Sometime Wet Plate Photographer
Alcalde, New Mexico


Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 24 November 2008 at 04:46
Thanks everyone. There seems to be enough interest. I'm in Glasgow right now, I'll be home later this week and I'll get back to working on getting a date set for it. 

Henning, I could possibly do a post of it - but it might defeat the purpose (being live and all) but we'll see. 

Gustavo, I only need a few people. The only thing I want to cover is the cost of supplies and chemistry/substrate, etc. 

The Skype to Skype is totally free, and as fotochick and Zman pointed out, it works great for this kind of thing. I think it will be sweet and very worthwhile. 

More later.. keep the ideas and comments coming please. 


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Posted By: fotochik
Date Posted: 24 November 2008 at 08:02
quinn - this is a terrific idea and i suspect will be enormously worthwhile for those of us just starting out and on limited financial and time budgets.


Posted By: Lars
Date Posted: 24 November 2008 at 12:20
YES I am  interested count me in 


Posted By: KPitts
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 02:09
I'd love to. Please keep us informed.


Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 12:13
Thanks again, everyone. I thought there would be interest and this is validation for me. Here's a link with a little more info, just thinking out loud really. If you have any ideas about it, I would love to hear them. I'm thinking it might end up being a live stream, depends on the quality...

http://www.studioq.com/news-events/webcast-workshop.htm - http://www.studioq.com/news-events/webcast-workshop.htm




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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 07:41

 

Okay, as the research continues, I've found some interesting bits.

 

First, I'm now debating whether just to convert all of my digital video over and do VODCASTING (Video On Demand Casting), kind of like Podcasting, which I’m a big fan of. I'm even thinking of "publsihing" my book this way, with vodcasts and a PDF of my new book. Trees would love me, and people would have access to the information quickly and easily.

 

My VODCASTS would be broken into "workshop" sections or chapters and cover everything in incredible detail, with high quality video/audio.

 

There are several advantages to this; first, you have access to it anytime you want to watch it. Secondly, you can review it at anytime, and move to any part of the vodcast you want to see/hear. These are HUGE advantages over a live feed and the potential technical and time nightmares for some.

 

The downside is the "live" element. Here's my take; after the initial "workshop" series of vodcasts, I would move to email recommendations or do Skype hookups and have some "roundtable" chats about the burning questions. I would base my future vodcasts on these emails and discussions so that if I'm not covering something people want to know about, they can request it. There are always new things coming around about this process so there is always something to vodcast about.


What do you think about this? Is it something that you would be interested in? Don’t be shy, YES! or NO! please chime in!

 
Post Script:
If it's okay, everyone that reponds to this thread will be put on an email list so that I can communicate with you "offline". If you don't want an email or two about vodcasts, tell me and I'll take you off, no worries.


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Posted By: timeUnit
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 07:54
vodcasts sound great! just go ahead!


Posted By: schrochem
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 09:01
Quinn, that's an interesting new take.
This could actually be advantageous in a lot of ways.
The main one I see is the follow ups.
For those of us that have been tinkering for awhile some of the material will be redundant and 'unnecessary'. Also, I'm sure some of the material will be of content some of us aren't currently doing (like negatives,pop or albumen).
So follow ups could focus on the areas of interest.
If you want to do roundtable follow ups, you might be able to consolidate similar questions for one 'meeting' and others for the next, thus avoiding the issue I stated above.




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Scott


Posted By: zmanphoto
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 09:14
Quinn,
sounds like a great idea. I can see you reaching more people this way instead of trying to do the workshop via skype. 


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Mark Z
http://www.markwzimmerman.com - http://www.markwzimmerman.com


Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 11:40
Thanks guy, exactly the info I need to hear. If you have any specific ideas, please pass them on. I'm going to do this, and I want to do it right.
 
I agree, I think this would have more potential and could be used as a resource for schools, presentations, etc. In other words, I could get a lot of mileage out of doing it this way.


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Posted By: fotochik
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 15:22
Quinn - Your vodcasting program with possible follow-ups is even more complete than the skype program.  it's a terrific and quite thorough approach to disseminating the information to lots of people ... count me in!


Posted By: gustavo
Date Posted: 28 November 2008 at 15:43
sounds good to me !
have you tought of a time ?
I started a job with the post office and hours are killer 10:00 pm to 8:00 am Los Angeles time


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We are not moved by things , but by the views we take of them.
Epictitus.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/gustavo_castilla/


Posted By: Stefan Sappert
Date Posted: 29 November 2008 at 11:35
i think that's a great idea,
give it a try!


Posted By: DirkV
Date Posted: 16 May 2009 at 16:38
Is this working?
 
Since following the workshop in Veghel (NL) i want to do this proces myself. But no camera (on this moment) and no workshops/lessons in this area. This can be a good idea. How interactive is it?
 
Gr  Dirk


Posted By: gustavo
Date Posted: 16 May 2009 at 20:33
Quinn you should get hold of Emil and see if the school he teaches at my be interested on doing a workshop

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We are not moved by things , but by the views we take of them.
Epictitus.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=531564515&ref=profile
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gustavo_castilla/



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